From: Suzanne Bate Date: Fri Jun 15, 2001 11:02 am Subject: Re: [Starwood Festival] Yay Only 1.2 months to starwood I have two thoughts on this: 1. It's always best to be over prepared rather than underprepared. 2. We are still in America and it'll be possible to drive somewhere to buy whatever you forgot at home. Personally, I prefer to be over prepared because you just never know what's going to happen. One year I took my cane with me in case my old sprained ankle decided to act up--didn't need it, but just having it there made me feel better. If you have room in your vehicle, I say bring everything. My first year I went without my regular allergy medication--bad move. Not only did I realize I'm mega allergic to something growing on site, but the local pharmacies don't carry anything like what I usually take--very frustrating, it was. Obviously Canadian medicine and American medicine is quite different. Learned the hard way. BB suebear This is the checklist that we use whenever we go car-camping. I highly recommend that you have some sort of system or checklist to make sure you don't forget something important. There's nothing more discouraging than being out in the middle of nowhere without a can opener or a box of matches. Everyone's list will be slightly different--this is the one we've developed over years. A few notes about our list: In the activities section, you'll see a lot of toys and entertainment items listed. We NEVER carry all of them, but we always carry some of them. This list just helps us pick and choose the right toy for the trip. Yes, we carry more clothing than is listed below. These are items that are very dependent on the weather and the destination, so they're listed as memory-joggers. In the food section, only the staples are listed (yes, wine is a staple!). The rest of the food would depend on our menu for the trip. In the personal/grooming section, be sure to list any special medications you might need while you're away. ACTIVITIES _____ Backgammon _____ Backpacks _____ Bicycles _____ Bike Chain/Lock _____ Binoculars _____ Books _____ Camera _____ Cards _____ CD Player/Discs _____ Confirmation #'s _____ Fanny Pack _____ Film _____ Frisbee _____ Hiking Sticks _____ Keyboard _____ Map/Brochures _____ Radio _____ Sketch Stuff _____ Tapes _____ Tripod _____ Video Camera CLOTHING _____ Gloves _____ Hats/Caps _____ Jackets _____ Ponchos _____ Shower Sandals _____ Swimsuits FOOD _____ B & B _____ Beer _____ Butter _____ Cinnamon-Sugar _____ Coffee _____ Garlic Salt _____ Lemon Pepper _____ Pepper _____ Salt _____ Soft Drinks _____ Sweetener _____ Water _____ Wine _____ Worchestershire KITCHEN _____ Aluminum Foil _____ Can Opener _____ Charcoal _____ Cleaning Sponge _____ Coffeepot _____ Corkscrew _____ Cups _____ Cutting Board _____ Dishtowels _____ Dishwashing Liquid _____ Huggies (if you have small children) _____ Ice Chest _____ Large Spoon _____ Lighter Fluid _____ Marshmallow Forks _____ Measuring Cup _____ Milk Jug _____ Mugs _____ Pans (2) _____ Paper Bags _____ Paper Towels _____ Plastic Bowls _____ Plastic Plates _____ Plasticware _____ Plastic wine glasses _____ Potholder _____ Sharp knives _____ Skillet _____ Spatula _____ Steak knives _____ Stove _____ Tongs _____ Toothpicks _____ Water Container TOOLS _____ Camp Knife _____ Flashlight _____ Hammer _____ Hatchet _____ Stake Puller _____ T.P. Lighter _____ Toilet Shovel _____ Ziploc Bags PERSONAL/GROOMING _____ Advil _____ Allergy pills _____ Deodorant _____ Eye Drops _____ First Aid Kit _____ Glasses _____ Hair dryer _____ Insect Repellant _____ Razor _____ Shampoo _____ Soap _____ Sunglasses _____ Sunscreen _____ Toilet Paper _____ Toothbrush _____ Toothpaste _____ Towels _____ Tums _____ Washcloths _____ Wet Wipes SHELTER _____ Ant Spray _____ Batteries _____ Camp Stool _____ Canopy _____ Chairs _____ Citronella Candles _____ Clothesline _____ Clothespins _____ Comforter _____ Firewood _____ Gazebo _____ Groundsheet _____ Lantern _____ Mantles _____ Matches _____ Pillows _____ Porta-Potty _____ Potty Chemicals _____ Propane _____ Reading Lantern _____ Rope _____ Shower _____ Shower Stall _____ Sleeping Bags _____ Sleeping Pads _____ Stakes _____ Starter Logs _____ Tent _____ Tent flashlight _____ Towel doormat _____ Trashbags _____ Umbrella _____ Whisk Broom Use at your leasure. Now depending on what you have for room and how excentric you are for clothing adapt this list to whatever you want. Love-N-Stuff Peter > IMO the one item that a lot of people forget to > bring to ther campsite is a > fire extinguisher. You should have at least one > person who brings one out of > any group. Ever seen anyone try to put out a fire > with a sleeping bag? > Dosn't work too well. And a small fire extinguiser > is what 15$. Heck most of > us spend more than that on gas getting to starwood. female: festival clothes--sarongs, flowing dresses i've made from cotton india bedspreads: that is what I wear during the warmth of the day. As it cools off at night I add layers or I end up changing into jeans and teeshirts, denim shirt, sweatshirt, denim jacket, etc. Sandals, barefeet by day, sandals or sneakers at night. I never wear underwear while I am at starwood but I bring some for the trip home. I think its just a matter of deciding how you want to look and doing that....you will see every kind of clothing from plain "normal" to wild outrageous to, of course, none at all. :) The most important thing is to make sure you have some warm stuff for at night and raingear if you don't want to get wet. NEWS FLASH: A meteor the size of a refrigerator slammed into the main field at Brushwood right smack dab in the ritual area... AND right in the path of that little river that runs through there when it rains. It dug a crater the size of a football field, and about 30 feet deep... which is now filling up with water. (I have had trouble getting access to my email lately. But there are a couple of things I have been wanting to say. Sorry if I sound a bit terse I have a lot of mail to go through.) Clothing optional does mean "optional", you don't have to do it. Although the shower situation is not as private as some people would like. The one at he top of the hill is no worse than the locker room in high school. There are two misunderstanding common among people who have never been in a clothing optional situation. Those of us who have been to Starwood before know these things but for the benefit of people who have never been and may be a bit nervous: misunderstanding 1) that nudity is the same as sex. It isn't. You taking off your clothes is not the same as asking someone to have sex with you. Them taking of their clothes is not the same as asking you to have sex with them. Nudity is OK in public at Brushwood. Sex is not, please find someplace private to have sex. misunderstanding 2) that only people with the bodies of porn stars take off their clothes in public. They aren't. The media gives us unrealistic expectations of the human body. Clothing optional events are wonderful for getting a realistic view of the human body. To paraphrase Robin Wood "You are just as beautiful as everyone else. Everyone else is just as beautiful as you." ===== Namaste, Sheherazahde Visit My Website! Very well said=) I would like to reiterate Sheherazahde's statement: << Nudity is OK in public at Brushwood. Sex is not, please find someplace private to have sex.>> For the last two Starwoods, my friends and I have come across several couples having sex in the field on bonfire night. I would like to suggest that they find somewhere private, rather than out in the middle of the field for everyone to see! Just my opinion=) sex, drugs, & rock n' roll~ ~*~pixie There is no meal plan really. They have a food court (with a decent selection of veg-friendly foods) and another vendor called Phil's Grill...which is Mediterranean-like food stuffs - they make the BEST strawbery lemonade ever! Last year I also recall a new coffee bar type place opening, with coffee, tea, muffins, cookies, etc. It's pretty free form which is good...because if you want to bring your own food for some of the days you can, but you can also buy food there as you go or as you need it. Dont' worry! You definitely WON'T go hungry there. ;) BB! )O( PixieWitch From: Buddha Buck Date: Sun Jun 10, 2001 1:15 am Subject: NYS Laws about alcohol and minors Because of the discusions concerning what the law in New York actually was, I decided to actually do the research and look it up. I got into the habit of looking up the actual laws when I realised that when I was asking different people what they thought the law said, I was getting vastly different answers -- because people just don't really know. Try it sometime... Take a poll among people what they think the age of consent is in New York, for instance (usually 17, but under some circumstances can be as low as 11 -- see http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?cl=82&a=29 for the details) Anyway, about alcohol and minors, the NYS Penal code Article 260 (Offenses Relating to Children, Disabled Persons and Vulnerable Elderly Persons) (http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?cl=82&a=65) says, in pertinent part: # S 260.20 Unlawfully dealing with a child in the first degree. # # A person is guilty of unlawfully dealing with a child in the #first degree when: # 2. He gives or sells or causes to be given or sold any #alcoholic beverage, as defined by section three of the alcoholic #beverage control law, to a person less than twenty-one years #old; except that this subdivision does not apply to the parent or #guardian of such a person or to a person who gives or causes to be #given any such alcoholic beverage to a person under the age of #twenty-one years, who is a student in a curriculum licensed or #registered by the state education department, where the tasting or #imbibing of alcoholic beverages is required in courses that #are part of the required curriculum, provided such alcoholic #beverages are given only for instructional purposes during #classes conducted pursuant to such curriculum. # # It is no defense to a prosecution pursuant to subdivision two of #this section that the child acted as the agent or representative of #another person or that the defendant dealt with the child as such. # # Unlawfully dealing with a child in the first degree is a class #A misdemeanor. Hope this helps. Have a nice day! Later, Buddha